(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[3600]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[Redmond Cup Senior Division Round 1]PW[Gansheng Shi]PB[Calvin Sun]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2011-07-31]EV[2011 Redmond Cup]RO[1]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]SO[2011 US Go Congress]US[Justin Teng (odnihs)]C[Goprince [3d\]: wow early epic showdown
MeSSed [6k\]: quiet,this is the good part >;o
USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the 2011 Redmond Cup Senior Division Round 1 :)
Nation [4k\]: ty ty
USGO1 [-\]: I'm USGO1, your transcriber for today
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;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[qp]
;W[dc]C[MeSSed [6k\]: hiiii usgo1 o/
]
;B[de]
;W[nc]C[merik [11k\]: cugel you here?
gocrazz [2d?\]: thanks a lot! USGO1
tamagotchi [8k\]: is this going to be an all day thing?
cugel [1k\]: you'll get more in 4 hours
cugel [1k\]: i here don't worry
cugel [1k\]: i know your P7 move was the mingjiu move
cugel [1k\]: you have good intuition
xevad [3k\]: Calvin Sun.. why does his name sound familiar
cugel [1k\]: :)
cugel [1k\]: killa nama
Nation [4k\]: is there a video for this?
merik [11k\]: cugel which game will you be watching?
USGO1 [-\]: nope, sorry
Atdawn [1d\]: Calvin Sun sounds like an awesome name
Nation [4k\]: it's fine lol
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin Sun has been the rep for the US to the WYGC for many years
]
;B[cc]
;W[cb]
;B[cd]
;W[eb]C[tamagotchi [8k\]: nah. cristian pop by far the best..^^
xevad [3k\]: how come there are 2 boards for this game?
cugel [1k\]: this one will be fine
]
;B[ci]C[xevad [3k\]: is this the commentary free one?
USGO1 [-\]: yes
USGO1 [-\]: it is being done by Curtis Tang, redmond meijin
Warfreak2 [4d\]: i presume the cup is named after michael redmond
merik [11k\]: i like blacks shape
cugel [1k\]: ok
indianayk [4d\]: Calvin Sun is kbag in KGS
xevad [3k\]: oh okay, thanks
smarthw: where is this redmond guy?
cugel [1k\]: how to make O17 look good now ?
]
;W[gd]C[merik [11k\]: its a start
merik [11k\]: but i definitly give advantage to b atm
cugel [1k\]: my udon soup is crazy good !
]
;B[qf]
;W[op]C[xevad [3k\]: =( I forgot to buy more udon
smarthw: in soviet russia, udon buys you
merik [11k\]: is soviet russia ko fight you
]
;B[mq]C[cugel [1k\]: but i'm eating on the goban, so i can't put stones
smarthw: how do i play back moves? the arrow here doesn't work
cugel [1k\]: Options / View Offline
xevad [3k\]: clone the game
cugel [1k\]: or have clone yeah 
xevad [3k\]: or view offline
smarthw: ok thx, interesting
verybad [6k\]: clone enables you to follow game developments
]
;W[or]C[verybad [6k\]: and adjust, whereas view offline doesn't allow that
Viperlason [5d\]: I beat Calvin once irl, true story
xevad [3k\]: view offline should be fine also, both players have 60 minutes game time, so the moves won't be played too quickly
Warfreak2 [4d\]: did you beat michael redmond though
cugel [1k\]: at drunk go ? ;-)
ccsco [1d?\]: there is a lot of drunk go at the EGC
Viperlason [5d\]: no, he is to powerful
cugel [1k\]: oooh P2, long time no see
verybad [6k\]: wow...i could have sworn that cugel was 6d?
Viperlason [5d\]: lol
xevad [3k\]: I don't see P2 played on kgs much anymore
Warfreak2 [4d\]: no, cugel is 24k
Viperlason [5d\]: have u ever seen Calvin irl? a sip would take that kid down
Viperlason [5d\]: a sip of wine cooler
tamagotchi [8k\]: lol
verybad [6k\]: lol americans talking about drink
xevad [3k\]: I don't play this move at all anymore.. and I have no idea why that is the case..
verybad [6k\]: i saw beerfest..biggest load of tosh ever
Viperlason [5d\]: tosh.0
Viperlason [5d\]: ?
cugel [1k\]: it's a good fighting move
xevad [3k\]: but I rarely see anyone play this on kgs either.. strange
cugel [1k\]: i like the b Q6
Viperlason [5d\]: this is just joseki
Viperlason [5d\]: to me
]
;B[pn]
;W[no]
;B[iq]C[cugel [1k\]: don't hide behind "joseki" u can like it or dislike it :)
]
;W[ql]
;B[pl]
;W[pk]
;B[ol]
;W[qo]C[Viperlason [5d\]: well
godhunter [5d\]: i didnt see j3 before
Viperlason [5d\]: now they're playing fast b/c they know it
cugel [1k\]: J3 seem risky jump
cugel [1k\]: playing light ?
Viperlason [5d\]: well, Calvin is still only 7d
tywin [1k?\]: j3 si begging for an invasion.
tywin [1k?\]: is*
godhunter [5d\]: but j3 looks playable
]
;B[po]C[tywin [1k?\]: Then b will either tenuki and leave the aji, or jump out to n5 or so.
]
;W[pp]
;B[ro]
;W[qq]
;B[qn]
;W[rq]C[xevad [3k\]: 7d is his rank but does anyone know his current rating?
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin is somewhere around 7.7 I believe
cugel [1k\]: yeah let's talk about rank, very interesting topic
tamagotchi [8k\]: what is their rating based on?
]
;B[fq]C[Viperlason [5d\]: well
tywin [1k?\]: Rated AGA games. Mostly tourney games.
xevad [3k\]: 7.61750
Viperlason [5d\]: 7.99 in my college is still a 7
]
;W[eq]C[hguu: and that's OK
cugel [1k\]: lol
Korken [3d\]: but they are not in your college...
tamagotchi [8k\]: so. everyone starts out at 0?
Viperlason [5d\]: no
Viperlason [5d\]: -30.00
tamagotchi [8k\]: o.o
Viperlason [5d\]: true story
Viperlason [5d\]: aga likes to call kyu's NEGATIVES
tamagotchi [8k\]: lol
]
;B[cn]
;W[fp]C[cugel [1k\]: that's cool
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;B[gq]C[tywin [1k?\]: But when you enter the system, you declare a rank and that's where they start you.
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;W[bo]C[Viperlason [5d\]: you ain't positive until ur a cool dan
cugel [1k\]: so 1k is like 0 ?
Viperlason [5d\]: no
Viperlason [5d\]: -1
cugel [1k\]: sorry 1d is the zero
Kable [5k\]: 0 dan!
]
;B[qk]C[Viperlason [5d\]: no
Lynx [2k?\]: being a dan would be so cool :P
Viperlason [5d\]: 1d is +1
hguu: as far as it is the same for everybody...
smarthw: at least they picked a nice small range around 0... imagine -.12943e-8 to -.334e-5
tywin [1k?\]: I think there are no numbers between -1.0 and 1.0.
cugel [1k\]: then it's failed arithmetic...
Korken [3d\]: it skips the zero?
Warfreak2 [4d\]: being dan is yawwwwn
Viperlason [5d\]: now
cugel [1k\]: ridiculous system :)
]
;W[ck]C[Viperlason [5d\]: if ur 0 kan, then ur 0 on aga
xevad [3k\]: oops
zeb: zeridan is stongest rank
Koffein [-\]: r9 looks a bit strange .. black still needs a move to defend the side
xevad [3k\]: typed a comment in the wrong game =/
tamagotchi [8k\]: that's an....interesting.. system.
karuna [3k\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?AGARatingSystem
Lynx [2k?\]: both players very good but I prefer W slightly
tywin [1k?\]: It does have the advantage that you can translate easily between the numbers and kyu/dan. -3.x is 3k, 5.x is 5d, etc.
smarthw: no, black doesnt need any move to defend right side
xevad [3k\]: Eric Lui last rank:4d rating:8.70211
]
;B[bn]C[Korken [3d\]: wait, so there is nothing between -1 and 1 or nothing between 0 and 1
horacelamb [3d\]: correct
Viperlason [5d\]: 9d's do not exist in aga i believe
tamagotchi [8k\]: 0 and 1?
tamagotchi [8k\]: really?
horacelamb [3d\]: -1 and 1
mollycat [6k\]: i would welcome comments on white's play. it seems odd to me
tamagotchi [8k\]: then what about the pros?
awegaw: 010010000
]
;W[co]C[smarthw: oh yeah baby talk binary to me!
]
;B[en]C[Korken [3d\]: i see
awegaw: lol
horacelamb [3d\]: the highest band/rank is 7d, but ratings go up indefinitely
zeb: his AGA rating! it's OVER 9000!!
palladium [-\]: there is commentary in USGO3 molly
cunaiii: Hi
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;W[hp]C[DrH0use [2d\]: loool
mollycat [6k\]: thns
Viperlason [5d\]: yah, we talk about off topics in the regular room
]
;B[gp]
;W[fo]C[Viperlason [5d\]: i say push again
cugel [1k\]: please no :)
smarthw: well ur the 2nd highest rank here Viper
Viperlason [5d\]: I am?
smarthw: yep
sebapvar [7k\]: is this a tournament game?
Viperlason [5d\]: yes
SergeyASh [9k\]: f8 ?
xevad [3k\]: I think Li Jie is closest to a 9 rating in the AGA
tamagotchi [8k\]: nah. high dans are just hiding like normal.
horacelamb [3d\]: no, Myungwan Kim is rated way higher
Viperlason [5d\]: yah
smarthw: wheres he
tezukazone [3d\]: f5 bad
Viperlason [5d\]: but like, when i saw him when he was 9d his tag said 7d
Viperlason [5d\]: or something
]
;B[go]
;W[fn]C[awegaw: can some ppl 12d?
Viperlason [5d\]: see
Viperlason [5d\]: G5 ...push again
cugel [1k\]: broken shape
horacelamb [3d\]: haha good call
Viperlason [5d\]: now
horacelamb [3d\]: I wouldn't have pushed there
Viperlason [5d\]: he might e7
SergeyASh [9k\]: e8 ....
awegaw: idkkkk
xevad [3k\]: last rank 6d current rating 9.48598
zeb: d9?
cugel [1k\]: isn't this what w wants ?
Viperlason [5d\]: d9 is what white wants!
smarthw: seems b better so far
Kantarella [6k\]: then what happens?
Viperlason [5d\]: hane in this case would be bad i think
Viperlason [5d\]: also e8 would be bad b/c of d7
SergeyASh [9k\]: w simple want destruct e11 moyo, imho
AroundOneD [2d\]: g5 no good
Viperlason [5d\]: yah, probably was..pushing in wrong direction
cugel [1k\]: all problems for b thanks to G5
Kantarella [6k\]: well it stabilized bottom?
]
;B[em]
;W[ek]C[Viperlason [5d\]: yah e7 like i though,
Viperlason [5d\]: thought*
cugel [1k\]: b will spread toothpaste all over board now
Viperlason [5d\]: but i saw this position and didn't like it
smarthw: is this irl match or online
DrH0use [2d\]: your life is nice viper
zeb: this is a fake match
Viperlason [5d\]: i wonder wat black will do
zeb: they aren't really playing
Viperlason [5d\]: has to get out w/ either f8 or F7
Lynx [2k?\]: no, the match is real, the kibitz was recorded however
Lynx [2k?\]: prerecorded, that is
Kantarella [6k\]: lol
smarthw: oh so all we say has been pre-recorded?
horacelamb [3d\]: f8
DrH0use [2d\]: lol
mollycat [6k\]: yes that's why so much lame kibitz about rank
Viperlason [5d\]: however
cunaiii: F8?
zeb: cut the one point jump!
Shutout [2k\]: yeah, be an internet troll program
Viperlason [5d\]: in this position black would want to play e11
Viperlason [5d\]: but nows not the case
xevad [3k\]: hard for black to make profit.. with a position like this
zeb: I always cut that jump
Viperlason [5d\]: this all started b/c of G5
horacelamb [3d\]: I still think g5 was bad
smarthw: if b end thi fight in sente, he wins
cunaiii: f8
Brilliant [5k\]: What are the age limits for the Redmond cup? I'm sure Calvin has been around forever...
]
;B[cj]C[Viperlason [5d\]: oh snap
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin is 14 years old
smarthw: lol
cugel [1k\]: aaah
Viperlason [5d\]: that is why i said earlier if he took a sip of wine cooler he would be down
cunaiii: C10 pfffff
xevad [3k\]: the butting move
tezukazone [3d\]: c10 bad
tezukazone [3d\]: b8 
zeb: getting ready for cutting the one point jump
DrH0use [2d\]: c8
cugel [1k\]: very crude fighting
]
;W[dk]C[zeb: awww
Viperlason [5d\]: sometimes crude is best
Kantarella [6k\]: hard to cut this
zeb: no cut
]
;B[fm]C[cunaiii: b makes w strong then get out?
cugel [1k\]: only sometimes though
]
;W[gn]C[xevad [3k\]: black trying to make the fight more favorable but..
Viperlason [5d\]: until ur 9p crudeness is acceptable
cugel [1k\]: polite thing to say is, w is heavy
cunaiii: i hope for w
cunaiii: =-0
zeb: w is just big-boned
xevad [3k\]: c10+C9 shape doesn't look very nice for white or black
Cephei [3k\]: 9p can play rude
cugel [1k\]: G4 G5 backfire
Cephei [3k\]: *crude
cunaiii: rude
cunaiii: lol
cugel [1k\]: this was to be expected
]
;B[gm]
;W[hn]
;B[gk]
;W[ei]C[hamsturinn [15k\]: zeb he must have then really big stomach bones
SergeyASh [9k\]: g12 ?
cugel [1k\]: E11 was fast
xevad [3k\]: this exchange seems costly for black
cugel [1k\]: G15 ;-)
cugel [1k\]: b probably need to run some more
smarthw: b profited from the exchange
cugel [1k\]: how so ?
Kantarella [6k\]: b bottom not so stable anymore
Lynx [2k?\]: seems to me W slightly happier
smarthw: all groups solid plus sente
Lynx [2k?\]: from this exchange
SergeyASh [9k\]: f10 not so fast, but looks good
Evaugh [1k\]: E13?
zeb: t1
xevad [3k\]: all groups solid?
zeb: thrown in at t1
zeb: *throw in
Theo93 [5k\]: l4
Lynx [2k?\]: t1 no good in this position, t2 better
zeb: t1 preserves the aji
Shutout [2k\]: aw man, at least use the proper a1 joke
qazwsxedc: d13
cugel [1k\]: welcome to the list zeb
]
;B[fj]C[cugel [1k\]: F10 is the rude move
xevad [3k\]: hmm
cugel [1k\]: w is dying
Theo93 [5k\]: d13
xevad [3k\]: where did this f10 come from..
Lynx [2k?\]: w is fine, to me just a question of sente
Kantarella [6k\]: d11
alienist [6k\]: b sucker punch
WuHoUnited [1k\]: make the bamboo like captain would!
philos [7k\]: d11?
]
;W[di]
;B[cg]
;W[dg]C[ZEPANCINHA [4k\]: nice call kantarella!
xevad [3k\]: good job black..
Kantarella [6k\]: been watching cappy :D
WuHoUnited [1k\]: :-D
cugel [1k\]: lol
]
;B[df]
;W[gh]C[SergeyASh [9k\]: b not time for g12 ...
cugel [1k\]: so run
WuHoUnited [1k\]: surely you don't suggest he tenuki
zeb: m17
cugel [1k\]: but "b gained from the exchange, C11 and C13 terr terr"
Lynx [2k?\]: even match but w play seems more elegant to me; hope/suspect he wins
qazwsxedc: o15
ozhakiki [9k\]: g14
philos [7k\]: L(
philos [7k\]: l8
cugel [1k\]: i hope too but suspect b win
Theo93 [5k\]: ^
cugel [1k\]: done with u udon, i can replay the moves!! XD
zeb: I hope I win
WuHoUnited [1k\]: i like o15 
xevad [3k\]: fighting hard for sente.. but who will get it
WuHoUnited [1k\]: or something around there
USGO1 [-\]: Shi is slightly bouncing around in his seat
Theo93 [5k\]: j10 or e13
cunaiii: wada
zeb: I really wanted g12
Kantarella [6k\]: no video I guess? 
WuHoUnited [1k\]: e13 not so hot i think
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin leans back and focuses intensely.
philos [7k\]: L 8 
xevad [3k\]: L8 is gote though..
philos [7k\]: cm'on
Kantarella [6k\]: please describe facial expressions, USGO1
qazwsxedc: how much time do they each have left?
]
;B[ho]C[CFrog [5k\]: g7 weak, can be attacked
]
;W[io]C[USGO1 [-\]: calvin has 31 minutes
xevad [3k\]: ?
USGO1 [-\]: Gansheng has more time than that, but I can't see the clock ;P
smarthw: is calvin good-looking?
Shutout [2k\]: his calves are awesome
xevad [3k\]: didn't they both have 60 minutes of time?
]
;B[in]C[qazwsxedc: thx
]
;W[hm]C[USGO1 [-\]: Shi looks pretty confident
tamagotchi [8k\]: is this bad?
smarthw: dangerous game for b, why such toruble?
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin is more or less straight-faced
remsleep [7k\]: j6 agressive?
Shutout [2k\]: j6 is natural
]
;B[hl]C[xevad [3k\]: if he plays too defensively white will take profit elsewhere
zeb: b needs to make two eyes
smarthw: nowai
cugel [1k\]: b is inducing almost all of his moves
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin takes a sip of water and gets out of his seat
USGO1 [-\]: presumably to get more water
GameFAQs [4d\]: nothing wrong with being induced though
smarthw: u mean seduced
merik [11k\]: i dont like B's position
icewater [2d?\]: it seems that maybe F10 wasn't so good, and instead maybe g11
zeb: j7 seems automatic
xevad [3k\]: supposedly g5 caused all of this
merik [11k\]: W has a lot of forcing moves if he decides not to comply to b
cunaiii: WHO IS WINNING?
cugel [1k\]: looks like chess style
SergeyASh [9k\]: Zen dream about b 
zeb: w to mate in three
]
;W[il]C[smarthw: w considering j8
Evaugh [1k\]: no mating
smarthw: too late
tuerda [1d\]: zeb still talking about being seduced
smarthw: lol
zeb: j7 come on
WuHoUnited [1k\]: why j7?
Shutout [2k\]: why j8 when you can play k8?
smarthw: cannot j7 
tuerda [1d\]: j7 sounds like suicide to me
Theo93 [5k\]: lol j7
WuHoUnited [1k\]: j7 is trying to cut alive stanes
WuHoUnited [1k\]: stones
rce: j9 now
jungle [1k\]: j7
smarthw: j9 and hope for the best
Theo93 [5k\]: ^
zeb: cut without reading is best cut
tuerda [1d\]: J9 is the normal shape, certainly
AroundOneD [2d\]: j7 not good
merik [11k\]: clamp at k8:)
Theo93 [5k\]: yep he can make an eye i think
WuHoUnited [1k\]: black gonna just be happy he's alive
cugel [1k\]: w has shape problem if cut, and b D5
Shutout [2k\]: clamp would be trouble for b
Theo93 [5k\]: j9 white k9 black j10?
AroundOneD [2d\]: j7 will be fully used by w
merik [11k\]: i would either clamp or hane
cugel [1k\]: clamp what ??
merik [11k\]: j9 seems ok but then you abandon your group on the bottom
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin is fidgeting with some stones in his hand while pondering his next move.
GameFAQs [4d\]: clamp is genius
GameFAQs [4d\]: lol
billy504 [6k\]: wasting time.... just j9
cugel [1k\]: only move
merik [11k\]: :)
zeb: no problem with time
Longshi [-\]: clamping certainly takes a lot of imagination
WuHoUnited [1k\]: j9 doesn't forget bottom group. bottom group alive
GameFAQs [4d\]: yeah
jungle [1k\]: j7 only move
]
;B[im]C[smarthw: ...for now
merik [11k\]: :(
Theo93 [5k\]: .....................
WuHoUnited [1k\]: boo
Shutout [2k\]: wat
tuerda [1d\]: !!!!!
tuerda [1d\]: OMG!
icewater [2d?\]: heh
Evaugh [1k\]: lol
cugel [1k\]: bad idea
GameFAQs [4d\]: sure
icewater [2d?\]: there is aji at d5
smarthw: b wants d5
Shutout [2k\]: b drunk?
tuerda [1d\]: b suicide!
Ardeur [5k?\]: let's fighting love
zeb: must play j7
xevad [3k\]: both players are previous title holders
merik [11k\]: j7 is not the best -.-
cugel [1k\]: w is never gonna allow that
AroundOneD [2d\]: after j7, I image k7, l6, l5 and h9 and j9
Longshi [-\]: what are you guys blabbering about XD
]
;W[hk]
;B[gl]
;W[hj]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: black wanna kill himself
Theo93 [5k\]: lol
Longshi [-\]: k8 j9 d5 e4 c4 
Korken [3d\]: d5 i guess
merik [11k\]: hari kiri!
merik [11k\]: :P
smarthw: seems w has read it out
rce: hara kiri
tuerda [1d\]: b sepukku
GreedKills [2k\]: w can count on good compensation at very least, i would think
merik [11k\]: i think a clamp would hev made for a more interesting game 
Ardeur [5k?\]: d5?
Cr4zYk1d [6k\]: d5 e4 c4 how does this end out for b?
zeb: d5 so lukewarm
GreedKills [2k\]: d5 good forcing move
smarthw: k8
cugel [1k\]: strange
]
;B[do]
;W[ep]C[merik [11k\]: -.-
tuerda [1d\]: b has sucessfully forced w . . . now time to see if he can try the harder task of not dying
zeb: now must c4
tamagotchi [8k\]: b8 doesnt wokr?
cugel [1k\]: nice how b induced C4, no ?
Theo93 [5k\]: ^
zeb: blow up w
jojongss: it me
jojongss: mario
GameFAQs [4d\]: c4 no good
jojongss: IT ME MARIO!!
cugel [1k\]: just teasing
zeb: c4 is explosive
goahead [?\]: just c4
GreedKills [2k\]: k8 
GameFAQs [4d\]: NO GOOD
jojongss: IT ME MARIO!!
remsleep [7k\]: b4 maybe?
tuerda [1d\]: c4 does not look like it works
jojongss: IT ME MARIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
palladium [-\]: calm down please jojongss
smarthw: c3 or c4
ciaso [1k\]: b4 doesnt make life
Theo93 [5k\]: c4 gets an eye
remsleep [7k\]: even c2 maybe
Ardeur [5k?\]: white can kill after c4?
Theo93 [5k\]: b/c white sacrifices the two stones no?
cugel [1k\]: ko
aussiemate [8k\]: c3 ?
ZEPANCINHA [4k\]: seki
billy504 [6k\]: no seki
ciaso [1k\]: j4 has some aji now
DexMorgan [6d\]: w thin
DexMorgan [6d\]: j7 was a strong move
]
;B[cp]C[goahead [?\]: why game stops?
RODILLON [3d\]: b win
xevad [3k\]: ko!
Vanya [1k\]: c4 
icewater [2d?\]: white has f2 at anytime
Vanya [1k\]: both alive
zeb: game isn't over yet
DexMorgan [6d\]: mm delicate, i dont know if f2 lets w b4
Longshi [-\]: did white forget about the cut or something ?
xevad [3k\]: unless white lives in sente.. this is a bad result for him
Longshi [-\]: f2 e2 no ?
xevad [3k\]: I hope white plays b4
goahead [?\]: w can only c3
Theo93 [5k\]: b4 is bad
Theo93 [5k\]: white must sacrifice the 2 stones
DexMorgan [6d\]: why bad
Longshi [-\]: you confident about that theo ? ^^
xevad [3k\]: =)
smarthw: 5k wisdom
Truvas [5k\]: lol
Theo93 [5k\]: if white went b4
zeb: b4 c3
zeb: it's obvious
AroundOneD [2d\]: over
smarthw: under
cugel [1k\]: don't tell me w hadn't something ready ?
Theo93 [5k\]: c3, b3,c2,f2,g2,d2,b2
USGO1 [-\]: Gansheng is in deep thought now.
smarthw: this was the most likely sequence, what could possibly have w misread?
smarthw: even i could read this before j7
Theo93 [5k\]: not c3, b4
Theo93 [5k\]: lol
aussiemate [8k\]: 5k is wiser than 6k
AroundOneD [2d\]: b tears w apart.
zeb: Gansheng is thinking about what to do after b takes m17
andrewgr [3k\]: remember there's aji of putting f3 group in atari
Shutout [2k\]: that he's thinking now doesn't mean he's thinking about c4
FakeBeauty [-\]: White has to go from C3, B3 in order to live.
smarthw: lol
Korken [3d\]: if W uses F2 then E2 doesn't connect with C2, so w thinks about playing b4
DexMorgan [6d\]: f2 g2 b4 c3 b3 c2 b2 d1 
TouyaAkira [5d\]: maybe thinking about f2?
ZEPANCINHA [4k\]: ko
merik [11k\]: j4
secureid [7k\]: bu t the w ains center
DexMorgan [6d\]: d1 looks tesuji but w seems to win the semeai
smarthw: touyaAkira i have a crush on u 
AroundOneD [2d\]: f2 nice
DexMorgan [6d\]: so f2 seems to be the move
TouyaAkira [5d\]: ^^'
cugel [1k\]: F2 E2
merik [11k\]: i like J4
AroundOneD [2d\]: f2 may save w still in the game
SergeyASh [9k\]: c3 
remsleep [7k\]: maybe hes thinking about tenuki even
xevad [3k\]: heh
cugel [1k\]: very funny
smarthw: merik: j4 ladder doesn't work...?
cugel [1k\]: 3-3 is the key once more
smarthw: and b has k8 anyway
aussiemate [8k\]: aji of k5 now 
WuHoUnited [1k\]: aussiemate!
merik [11k\]: atari at c3 then connect at j4 :)
Longshi [-\]: was thinking about f2 e2 but then j7 is captured
Korken [3d\]: is it an option to answer F2 with E2 DexMorgan?
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin has just checked Gansheng's time. Gansheng is at 42 minutes
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin is at 22 minutes.
teach [3d\]: f2 w sente?
goahead [?\]: w f2, b e2
]
;W[hq]C[smarthw: zchen left us
cugel [1k\]: aaaaah
drau [5k\]: wow
zeb: b pass
cugel [1k\]: good
andrewgr [3k\]: if j4 then k5 captures one or the other
]
;B[jo]C[GreedKills [2k\]: oooh
uglymove: k5
Longshi [-\]: ?
WuHoUnited [1k\]: black so sad
tezukazone [3d\]: f2 
uglymove: black is fine
SergeyASh [9k\]: f2 
andrewgr [3k\]: this is just to get sente moves with e3
cugel [1k\]: but this is bad for w outside
billy504 [6k\]: clearly
andrewgr [3k\]: if e3 lives then e7 dies doesn't he?
WuHoUnited [1k\]: yeah, but if white gets b4 then e7 still in danger
tuerda [1d\]: if b dies at E7, who cares what happens to w outside?
cugel [1k\]: J9 problem
Longshi [-\]: especially since o5 is solid
uglymove: f2
Theo93 [5k\]: i dont think black e7 will die
pororo [5d\]: j4 doesnt work too bad
WuHoUnited [1k\]: wh f2 over g2 
merik [11k\]: g2
tuerda [1d\]: looked for a second like J4 worked, but it does not
]
;W[bp]
;B[ik]C[xevad [3k\]: hurray
cugel [1k\]: yes
]
;W[jl]C[smarthw: wow
]
;B[jk]C[uglymove: 9p move
WuHoUnited [1k\]: l7 
cugel [1k\]: u see this P8 stone ?
smarthw: no
zeb: n3
merik [11k\]: g2
teach [3d\]: w still has h2 for later
Theo93 [5k\]: k6
teach [3d\]: b not out of the woods
WuHoUnited [1k\]: k6 bad
WuHoUnited [1k\]: i think
reticent [5k\]: redmond cup is a youth tournament?
SergeyASh [9k\]: k6 j4 k7 j5 n6 ?
cugel [1k\]: K6 impossible
smarthw: isnt redmond where microsoft is?
GreedKills [2k\]: :D
smarthw: this must be a microsoft sponsored cup
wbathurs [1d\]: yes
USGO1 [-\]: Redmond cup is an invitational tournament for top youth plyers in the US
USGO1 [-\]: players*
WuHoUnited [1k\]: was there a micheal redmond?
]
;W[ne]C[xevad [3k\]: yay
GreedKills [2k\]: only western 9p people :P
tuerda [1d\]: !
zeb: now c3
]
;B[ip]C[Ardeur [5k?\]: tenuki awesome
]
;W[er]C[andrewgr [3k\]: if c3 worked white wouldn't have tenuki
tuerda [1d\]: well, b lived
]
;B[hi]C[reticent [5k\]: smarthw: sponsored by michael redmond [9p, Nihon Kiin\]
merik [11k\]: H10
smarthw: h10 illegal move
teach [3d\]: w super aggressive, then gives up
]
;W[gi]C[zeb: h10 10p move
Theo93 [5k\]: i think c3 works actually
]
;B[gj]C[tuerda [1d\]: looks like J7 worked out after all
tuerda [1d\]: astonishing
]
;W[ij]C[tuerda [1d\]: c3 accomplishes nothing
]
;B[kk]C[smarthw: c3 ko threat
]
;W[ii]
;B[gf]C[smarthw: o5 very well placed
]
;W[ch]
;B[bh]
;W[dh]C[NinjaKun [2d\]: B10!
xevad [3k\]: sometimes you have to fight
]
;B[bi]
;W[ef]C[USGO1 [-\]: Calvin has under 20 minutes of main time remaining.
ciaso [1k\]: f16?
DexMorgan [6d\]: g14 looks like strange approach
zeb: w is trying to win
rce: very big territory
DexMorgan [6d\]: m14 seems more natural to me
]
;B[ee]C[xevad [3k\]: now the real fight starts
]
;W[ff]C[Theo93 [5k\]: how far ahead is black?
]
;B[fe]
;W[ge]C[andrewgr [3k\]: depends on how much top side becomes territory for white
andrewgr [3k\]: i would think
xevad [3k\]: black oly gained slightly Theo
smarthw: 12.5
xevad [3k\]: only
mw2a [1k\]: hi, friends. what is 'senior?" i thought the redmond cup was for the youngsters?
]
;B[mf]C[drau [5k\]: g13 
NinjaKun [2d\]: nice
USGO1 [-\]: senior division is 12-17
]
;W[nf]C[USGO1 [-\]: ages
xevad [3k\]: mw2a Redmond cup has a Senior and Junior Cup
mw2a [1k\]: ic, ty
andrewgr [3k\]: now black damages right side to hurt top?
xevad [3k\]: or divisions
NinjaKun [2d\]: L14
mw2a [1k\]: i thought it meant like "discounted coffee" senior
Lynx [2k?\]: same =)
merik [11k\]: p12
zeb: p12?!
drau [5k\]: ladder
smarthw: m13, for great justice
merik [11k\]: i like p12 for a couple reasons
merik [11k\]: it build black some more territory
zeb: p12 q13
merik [11k\]: puts pressure on the tree white
reticent [5k\]: p12 is too loose
merik [11k\]: good follow up move at k16
xevad [3k\]: if black plays p12 here.. he would have to invade the top in order to have a chance to win
reticent [5k\]: p13 might make more sense
drau [5k\]: h12 
reticent [5k\]: shape-wise
xevad [3k\]: after white strengthens it
]
;B[kf]
;W[hf]C[smarthw: w careful
mw2a [1k\]: w seems comfortably ahead
gireme [8k?\]: great move
smarthw: b ahead now
merik [11k\]: w is very happy with this -.-
Theo93 [5k\]: i think black is still up by like 10?
xevad [3k\]: black areas of territory are not very secure either
AroundOneD [2d\]: n16
reticent [5k\]: j14?
merik [11k\]: if w plays solid and doesnt let up b will have a tough time with the game
]
;B[ld]
;W[qc]C[zeb: ow
Lynx [2k?\]: oth, if b does that, w will have a tough time as well ;)
DexMorgan [6d\]: b sequence was very unstylish
smarthw: b get sente and his win is assured
]
;B[pc]
;W[qd]C[Shutout [2k\]: w snatching last corner
Lynx [2k?\]: very unsettled game for so many moves
DexMorgan [6d\]: this doesnt look like a good invasion to me
DexMorgan [6d\]: w wil lgenerate a weak group
billy504 [6k\]: agreed
DexMorgan [6d\]: to get what..5 points of cash
cugel [1k\]: :)
xevad [3k\]: doesn't look like a sente sequence for black to me
cugel [1k\]: it's what amateurs do
]
;B[qb]C[andrewgr [3k\]: but he erases another 12 points too?
DexMorgan [6d\]: it doesnt matter if its not sente
Goprince [3d\]: doesnt even look like and invasion feels like w wants  to attack black lol.. classinc gansheng
smarthw: w fiesty
smarthw: b+time
Evaugh [1k\]: what's gansheng?
zeb: w kill himself?
mw2a [1k\]: the w pllayer
Evaugh [1k\]: oh doh
xevad [3k\]: Gansheng is the person playing white
TouyaAkira [5d\]: he is also called william, if it makes it easier
Evaugh [1k\]: I can manage
uglymove: william bonner
DexMorgan [6d\]: if black gets n17, w is in royal trouble
AroundOneD [2d\]: getting a small corner is not worthy
Lynx [2k?\]: w digging himself a ditch
Theo93 [5k\]: yep
smarthw: b was ahead anyway, w had to try something
merik [11k\]: O11
AroundOneD [2d\]: and putting o17 group in japardy not good
cugel [1k\]: strange :(
aussiemate [8k\]: W resigns
]
;W[lc]C[cugel [1k\]: cool
Longshi [-\]: sigh
zeb: finally someone plays m17
]
;B[md]C[TouyaAkira [5d\]: Hi Pierre!
DexMorgan [6d\]: n16 is blunt :S
DexMorgan [6d\]: but looks ok
smarthw: blunt?
xevad [3k\]: black likes this move
cugel [1k\]: that's b
Longshi [-\]: blop
cugel [1k\]: but this is one of his move i like
Theo93 [5k\]: n16 seems typical to me? :o
WuHoUnited [1k\]: blunt most mean right on the point that white would have loved to have
]
;W[nd]C[cugel [1k\]: yes
Lynx [2k?\]: n16 very effective tho does what it wants to
Shutout [2k\]: n16 is pretty obvious and the reason i would've liked to play m18 instead of m17
AroundOneD [2d\]: n16 not good
AroundOneD [2d\]: w has p18
andrewgr [3k\]: maybe upper right was asking moves-- if black answers like he did, white finds a way to use p18 aji like he's doing here
xevad [3k\]: see antonym for blunt
DexMorgan [6d\]: p18 is not a very nice move to do
zeb: p18 is mean
smarthw: no WuHo, blunt means without an edge
Syptryn [3d\]: a
cugel [1k\]: O16 affects the corner fight, though
]
;B[qe]C[Syptryn [3d\]: q15 works .ow
AroundOneD [2d\]: after p18, q18 gets corner
]
;W[kc]C[DexMorgan [6d\]: i like black l17 the most
merik [11k\]: L11
DexMorgan [6d\]: r15 is too soft
zeb: this is what w was reading when he didn't play c3
Longshi [-\]: yeah, white got off the hook nicely
DexMorgan [6d\]: now w out of trouble
Shutout [2k\]: so w got his top back... how?
xevad [3k\]: bottom of the board looks shakey for black
needs [6k\]: r17 is to have sente ?
cugel [1k\]: dex are u playing at ugc ?
smarthw: b didn't get much for his trouble
Theo93 [5k\]: black still has a fine lead tho
DexMorgan [6d\]: no..
remsleep [7k\]: around m11 ?
smarthw: b lead almost gone now
cugel [1k\]: pity
drau [5k\]: r10 
Theo93 [5k\]: hmmm i think it's like +10? :o
merik [11k\]: p12
zeb: b planning for f8
]
;B[qj]C[tuerda [1d\]: how the hell do you count points at this stage theo?
zas [11k\]: k8 dead ?
mw2a [1k\]: what is this about a b lead?
DexMorgan [6d\]: pff way too slow
DexMorgan [6d\]: b feeling very confident
drau [5k\]: :( 
smarthw: b laughing in w face
cugel [1k\]: u hate b style too ? :)
Theo93 [5k\]: by guessing what will happen to the territory hehe
smarthw: b laughing at w's attacks
merik [11k\]: i liked p12 better
remsleep [7k\]: w will attack n14
Wagaboo [5k\]: c4 much ajii
AroundOneD [2d\]: originally, b just wants to reduce w
Lynx [2k?\]: if I were b, I think I'd be confident too
DexMorgan [6d\]: i fear a counter attack to the center group
DexMorgan [6d\]: white has m9
NinjaKun [2d\]: why not O12?
DexMorgan [6d\]: there is aji
Wagaboo [5k\]: b has b3
]
;W[lo]C[DexMorgan [6d\]: m9 l8 n12 
xevad [3k\]: see bottom shakey
cugel [1k\]: b is inducing life of top group with R10
rce: r10 vey big
Longshi [-\]: I wonder if o13 is good now
cugel [1k\]: it's a huge move so he should play it
xevad [3k\]: C6 isn't in any danger though
zeb: r10 gives r9 two more liberties
merik [11k\]: b9 :P
cugel [1k\]: if you have weak group, induce the attack and opponent will let you live for free !!
DexMorgan [6d\]: also
smarthw: b cannot conect b9 bc of d7?
DexMorgan [6d\]:  ithink r15 might have been better at p18 for the same purpose
zeb: l5
mw2a [1k\]: black cannot be benign, he must be aggressive, merik
GameFAQs [4d\]: quiz: what is cugel's favorite word?
DexMorgan [6d\]: p18 o18 q13 
DexMorgan [6d\]: that way, b wouldnt have had to r10
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin has under 10 minutes of main time remaining.
]
;B[kl]C[reticent [5k\]: B has an open skirt there so there's very little territory at the bottom - is that right?
xevad [3k\]: his favorite word is "play"
]
;W[pg]C[merik [11k\]: W gets good profit now -.-
Longshi [-\]: what a horrible shape
reticent [5k\]: that's a pretty severe shoulderhit
GameFAQs [4d\]: negative
Longshi [-\]: good move though
GameFAQs [4d\]: induce
cugel [1k\]: lol i don't know
]
;B[qg]C[xevad [3k\]: hah I induced you into saying it
]
;W[ph]C[xevad [3k\]: *pats self on back
AroundOneD [2d\]: w eyes on 4 stones
zeb: p10 p10 p10
gireme [8k?\]: w preparing to attack n16?
GameFAQs [4d\]: uncalled for..
remsleep [7k\]: n14 getting weaker and weaker...
AroundOneD [2d\]: preparation
]
;B[kd]
;W[jd]C[xevad [3k\]: hmm
andrewgr [3k\]: black's going to tolerate s11?
cugel [1k\]: it's only that b overuses the technique
]
;B[je]
;W[id]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: what technique?
xevad [3k\]: I wonder if it even matters if this group lives
cugel [1k\]: induction
remsleep [7k\]: ka ching
smarthw: lol
cugel [1k\]: but b can thank w for M5 L8
cugel [1k\]: all aji gone
WuHoUnited [1k\]: he needs some capacitance then
smarthw: j16 did sound like ka-ching, didnt it ^^
merik [11k\]: L12
]
;B[ob]
;W[nb]C[Shutout [2k\]: m5 was the best way to cash out j8
Wagaboo [5k\]: w has a good lead
]
;B[qh]C[mw2a [1k\]: b`7
smarthw: hmm b an optimist
remsleep [7k\]: w surround n4
remsleep [7k\]: n14
merik [11k\]: l3
xevad [3k\]: white attacks a little more and then profits on the bottom?
zeb: n14 is one point
Shutout [2k\]: m12
Wagaboo [5k\]: b3
mw2a [1k\]: m2
rce: m13
]
;W[kh]C[Aur [1d\]: m12 
]
;B[ng]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: hm
smarthw: b willing to trade
mw2a [1k\]: l12
WuHoUnited [1k\]: i don't know that b can really trade that and come out ahead
zeb: b wants everything
michi2009 [6d\]: trade what?
cugel [1k\]: 2 for 7
TouyaAkira [5d\]: exactly, trade what ;p
mw2a [1k\]: n14 for q12 i suppose
merik [11k\]: m3
]
;W[me]C[xevad [3k\]: black can't afford to lose any stones
WuHoUnited [1k\]: wans't expecting n15
]
;B[mg]C[smarthw: trade big center for m16
]
;W[le]
;B[kg]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: mmm 3
xevad [3k\]: white loses nothing
WuHoUnited [1k\]: p14  or something
tuerda [1d\]: b aiming for P14 if w not careful
merik [11k\]: O10
WuHoUnited [1k\]: w stones worth more than m16 right now
TouyaAkira [5d\]: this seems kinda weird for w
andrewgr [3k\]: now or never to connect q13
Cephei [3k\]: m14 l15 q14 looks better?
]
;W[li]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: m11 
WuHoUnited [1k\]: too slow
Longshi [-\]: yeah, w got little and almost killed his stones
cugel [1k\]: there is time
TouyaAkira [5d\]: yeah looks useless
zeb: o11
Theo93 [5k\]: ^
ShenTe [4k\]: Q11
smarthw: j13 for the lolz
]
;B[of]C[Wagaboo [5k\]: i see dame everywheeeeere...
]
;W[ni]C[zeb: :(
TouyaAkira [5d\]: black failed
xevad [3k\]: 8 points
TouyaAkira [5d\]: this is so weird
ShenTe [4k\]: P12
cugel [1k\]: maybe because w played dame attack ?
Theo93 [5k\]: p11
tuerda [1d\]: b seems fine to me
xevad [3k\]: not good enough
Shutout [2k\]: why would you permit o11?
TouyaAkira [5d\]: both failed
merik [11k\]: p13
]
;B[ke]C[Lynx [2k?\]: if both failed, then both succeeded /zen
xevad [3k\]: O11 is sente..
mw2a [1k\]: umm
Larrave [1d\]: not quite
TouyaAkira [5d\]: lol
zeb: b reading only twenty moves ahead
WuHoUnited [1k\]: i'd say white got the better of that exchange
Musketeer [3d\]: too slow
mw2a [1k\]: bad
smarthw: b k12 sente
]
;W[oi]C[cugel [1k\]: bad move
]
;B[og]C[michi2009 [6d\]: b planning k11, l11
Musketeer [3d\]: 3 stones not worth saving
Longshi [-\]: n10 ?
]
;W[kn]C[xevad [3k\]: white wins
Wagaboo [5k\]: what's with that bad endgame !!!!
remsleep [7k\]: 3 stones 6 points ?
merik [11k\]: to soon
WuHoUnited [1k\]: b18 
]
;B[km]C[TouyaAkira [5d\]: michi - yeah w needs to be careful
cugel [1k\]: much more than 6
xevad [3k\]: play on the bottom seals the deal
remsleep [7k\]: cuz w got 2 monkeys on bottom
merik [11k\]: m3
cugel [1k\]: but
Nayel [4k\]: is l3 playable ?
Nayel [4k\]: for W
Longshi [-\]: no
Musketeer [3d\]: 8 points remsleep
Wagaboo [5k\]: w can play k1....
mw2a [1k\]: m2
merik [11k\]: m3 :)
WuHoUnited [1k\]: i wanna see k1
]
;W[kq]C[smarthw: w need to protect L12 stones
cugel [1k\]: i remember K1 type move, later K2 follow up
merik [11k\]: noo :(
Lynx [2k?\]: bah, wanted to say l3 looked fine
michi2009 [6d\]: k11
zeb: f2
Theo93 [5k\]: l4
merik [11k\]: m3 would have worked fin :(
]
;B[ji]C[Nayel [4k\]: i think l3 good
xevad [3k\]: k11 is not a very nice move..
TouyaAkira [5d\]: heres the power move
xevad [3k\]: cuts
michi2009 [6d\]: over now
xevad [3k\]: nooo white lost!
skeptical [3d\]: knock out punch
eugenia [?\]: hi
]
;W[jh]
;B[ih]C[tuerda [1d\]: not yet
merik [11k\]: j12
Wagaboo [5k\]: aah o yeah
smarthw: b get 4 stone
WuHoUnited [1k\]: white not so bad
Kanson [6d?\]: cool
michi2009 [6d\]: ?
WuHoUnited [1k\]: white still connect
AmonAmarth [4d\]: h12 l11 
WuHoUnited [1k\]: maybe not all
cugel [1k\]: ppl don't read much nowadays
smarthw: huge loss for w
michi2009 [6d\]: good
Wagaboo [5k\]: it's huge 8 points sente
]
;W[ig]
;B[jj]C[Shutout [2k\]: terrible, terrible damage
]
;W[hh]
;B[ii]
;W[jg]C[TouyaAkira [5d\]: awesome deal for b
AroundOneD [2d\]: l11 bigger
TouyaAkira [5d\]: damn
gireme [8k?\]: wow
Nayel [4k\]: l3 worth it to me
WuHoUnited [1k\]: white still got l3
ZEPANCINHA [4k\]: res now
drau [5k\]: b+5.5 my count
Lynx [2k?\]: can''t b cut?
smarthw: lol so many dans here and only i saw L12 in danger
merik [11k\]: H2
andrewgr [3k\]: L3 may have been bigger than that
Longshi [-\]: l4 or l2 now ?
TouyaAkira [5d\]: ah, no not only u saw
Longshi [-\]: smarthw : are you kidding ?
TouyaAkira [5d\]: weve been talkign about it lol
Musketeer [3d\]: sente 7 points theere
cugel [1k\]: even kyu can see...
dagec [7d\]: come on canada, beat US!
Chrille [2k\]: saw it days ago
smarthw: lol
AroundOneD [2d\]: o19
Aur [1d\]: whose canada?
dagec [7d\]: Go WILLIAM SHI
qazwsxedc: n10?
smarthw: lol both players asian, dagec
xevad [3k\]: dagec must be buddies with Gansheng
Wagaboo [5k\]: m12 l11 n11 n10 o12 m10 o10  ko
andrewgr [3k\]: does n11 wedge work now?
Musketeer [3d\]: who's william shi?
tuerda [1d\]: next move somewhere on the bottom I expect
TouyaAkira [5d\]: doesnt work
dagec [7d\]: gansheng
Aur [1d\]: n11 never wored
Aur [1d\]: worked
tuerda [1d\]: silliam shi is white
Longshi [-\]: m12 n12 wagaboo
Kable [5k\]: tuerda :D
Musketeer [3d\]: thx turer
]
;B[kp]
;W[lq]
;B[lp]
;W[mr]
;B[mp]C[tuerda [1d\]: lol
]
;W[jr]C[Larrave [1d\]: why did white have to give away those stones?
zeb: f2
Longshi [-\]: o2 ?
smarthw: w resign soon
tuerda [1d\]: kable finds subtle irony in the statment "william shi is white"
TouyaAkira [5d\]: because of the cutness
]
;B[mj]
;W[mi]C[skeptical [3d\]: cuteness you mean?
]
;B[nr]C[TouyaAkira [5d\]: no, the cut-ness
Longshi [-\]: cheers
Wagaboo [5k\]: b18 is huge
michi2009 [6d\]: painful
TouyaAkira [5d\]: strong move
Musketeer [3d\]: nice move
Kable [5k\]: :O
dagec [7d\]: stop being naive:)
Musketeer [3d\]: w can't cut
smarthw: ..obvious move?
tuerda [1d\]: this is clever
Longshi [-\]: yes, fairly obvious
Longshi [-\]: but still pretty
cugel [1k\]: K2 just wrong shape
AroundOneD [2d\]: sucks
xevad [3k\]: looked like sure victory for white..
smarthw: k2 at L2 obv
tuerda [1d\]: w cringes
xevad [3k\]: game changed so fast
tuerda [1d\]: this is extremely painful for w
]
;W[ns]C[Musketeer [3d\]: w didn't see it coming
cugel [1k\]: also M3 should M2
reticent [5k\]: what made o3 not work?
Lynx [2k?\]: w ran out of steamperhaps
WuHoUnited [1k\]: o3 o4 
mw2a [1k\]: o3 o4 o2 p5 
Longshi [-\]: o3 o4 o1 p5 
tuerda [1d\]: o3 o4 o1 p5 
reticent [5k\]: aaah
]
;B[nq]C[reticent [5k\]: i was looking at m2
reticent [5k\]: wrong direction :)
]
;W[lr]
;B[oq]
;W[pq]
;B[pr]
;W[os]C[merik [11k\]: its like watching a fish die -.-
uglymove: yes
uglymove: is painful
WuHoUnited [1k\]: black?
uglymove: what is b doing?
davideo [3k\]: hmmm
remsleep [7k\]: ??
merik [11k\]: n1
davideo [3k\]: i wonder who is winning
]
;B[bb]
;W[ba]C[tuerda [1d\]: kicking ass and taking names uglymove
davideo [3k\]: white by a  little bit
davideo [3k\]: ?
uglymove: q2 was ridiculous
]
;B[dd]C[Longshi [-\]: q2 is fine
Lynx [2k?\]: ugly move
uglymove: yes
uglymove: very ugly move
tuerda [1d\]: Upper left stuff bigger than J2?
reticent [5k\]: this hurts - so n1/j2 and you get k3 in sente
Shutout [2k\]: why u no n5?
uglymove: q2= me
remsleep [7k\]: wants ko threats on with q2?
dagec [7d\]: b's winning because it's thicker, will earn more points
smarthw: b17 no prob
reticent [5k\]: n1 m1 q1 connect k3 sente
zeb: q2 says "there will be no ko fights in the endgame"
uglymove: q2 says: i like to spent threats
uglymove: cya boyz
Shinnosuke [1k\]: q2 says: I like atari
Wagaboo [5k\]: q2 da
aussiemate [8k\]: hurry back
]
;W[bc]C[cugel [1k\]: it's bad style but it won't lose this game
Longshi [-\]: ow
Shinnosuke [1k\]: weird... I listen to speaking stones
]
;B[ec]C[michi2009 [6d\]: wow
]
;W[db]C[alienist [6k\]: middle disaster for w
]
;B[fc]C[Shutout [2k\]: what
]
;W[fd]
;B[ed]C[reticent [5k\]: seriously, k3 is now sente, if my reading isn't horrendously bad
joejoe [4k\]: hmmm
cugel [1k\]: this is the resign seq
merik [11k\]: q2 says "bring it im peeved about pushing on me at c6
]
;W[gb]C[reticent [5k\]: but i guess he didn't need q2 to prove that
merik [11k\]: :P
xevad [3k\]: hmm
smarthw: q14 was better
zeb: b16
smarthw: c14
Aur [1d\]: gg
Aur [1d\]: g17 h17 f18 f19 h18 g19 e19 f19 
remsleep [7k\]: b n5 now?
ToStrong4u [1k\]: g17 first
cugel [1k\]: not really
xevad [3k\]: tenuki is a bad idea
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin has three periods of byo-yomi left
merik [11k\]: b14
ToStrong4u [1k\]: wait nvm...maybe not
Wagaboo [5k\]: o6 is beter than n5
]
;B[gc]
;W[hc]C[uglymove: b16 is a must
zeb: just b16 I don't get this
cugel [1k\]: yes lose liberty, and induce defense
cugel [1k\]: as usual
reticent [5k\]: USGO1: how long is byo-yomi?
Aur [1d\]: OH SNAP
USGO1 [-\]: 5 periods of 30 seconds
cugel [1k\]: yes snap
reticent [5k\]: thanks
Musketeer [3d\]: even exchange, w gets sente
cugel [1k\]: damezumari, cutting point blah
uglymove: snap what?
merik [11k\]: f18
Aur [1d\]: w is clever
zeb: b wants h18?
]
;B[bf]C[reticent [5k\]: f18 is putting yourself into trouble
]
;W[ab]C[uglymove: what the
Wagaboo [5k\]: a nooo should have b16 before
cugel [1k\]: w finally captured stone
smarthw: b was trying to be clever
]
;B[mo]
;W[nn]
;B[mn]C[Aur [1d\]: b gained sente again?
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin has two periods of byo-yomi
USGO1 [-\]: remaining
WuHoUnited [1k\]: how old is white?
uglymove: i like that move
USGO1 [-\]: w is 17
xevad [3k\]: left side became small for black
uglymove: and black?
]
;W[hr]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: thank you
smarthw: which of the two is better looking?
]
;B[ir]
;W[gr]C[smarthw: i like to cheer for the underdog
uglymove: how old is calvin sun??
]
;B[ms]
;W[ls]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: 14
reticent [5k\]: crunch
]
;B[ps]
;W[ms]C[cugel [1k\]: well, it shows in style
uglymove: THX
USGO1 [-\]: The sound of the clock has now been turned on.
]
;B[ks]C[zeb: f2
]
;W[qr]
;B[fi]
;W[fh]C[cugel [1k\]: good that we can't hear them
]
;B[cq]
;W[bq]C[merik [11k\]: f2 -.-
uglymove: f2 f1 nothing
WuHoUnited [1k\]: f2 nothing big
cugel [1k\]: difficult game to watch
]
;B[ki]
;W[lh]C[uglymove: HARD GAME
Wagaboo [5k\]: c3 whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
uglymove: very harder
zeb: c3 getting ready for that ko
Atdawn [1d\]: F2 now!
michi2009 [6d\]: b9
WuHoUnited [1k\]: c3 makes a5 worth more?
uglymove: b9
USGO1 [-\]: Calvin is now in his last period of byo-yomi
uglymove: b9 is the last big point
cugel [1k\]: w + tiume
vhmvhh: a5
]
;B[na]C[xevad [3k\]: w winning by time would be epic
mw2a [1k\]: is b9 w sente?
andrewgr [3k\]: black is up by a lot, he can afford to give away some points to play safe
USGO1 [-\]: A small crowd has gathered by the game.
xevad [3k\]: peer pressure!
]
;W[ma]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: i wouldn't say black's up by a lot
Kantarella [6k\]: at 7d they are all good at counting, or what?
xevad [3k\]: yes
cugel [1k\]: have to
Kantarella [6k\]: so b is aware of being ahead
WuHoUnited [1k\]: counting komi white could be ahead
]
;B[oa]
;W[mc]C[xevad [3k\]: lol I forgot to count the 7.5
reticent [5k\]: what's the ruleset - aga? ing?
xevad [3k\]: AGA
]
;B[nm]C[alienist [6k\]: b still win
mw2a [1k\]: o9 
SeiChan [4k\]: whats AGA?
teach [3d\]: s18 will be big
xevad [3k\]: American go association
smarthw: aga is the younger sister of gaga
michi2009 [6d\]: o7 smaller than b9
mw2a [1k\]: is b9 sente, mici?
]
;W[lj]C[ShenTe [4k\]: Q11
]
;B[pi]C[aussiemate [8k\]: AGA is Australian Go Association
]
;W[oh]C[Aur [1d\]: b is winning big in my count
ShenTe [4k\]: p10
]
;B[lk]C[cugel [1k\]: winning pig is more like it :(
uglymove: b9999
USGO1 [-\]: Gansheng has 16 minutes of main time remaining.
uglymove: whats wrong whit b9??
smarthw: just about enough to resign...
zeb: k3 sente
]
;W[pj]
;B[qi]
;W[nk]C[ShenTe [4k\]: N9
zeb: n9 clear
]
;B[bk]
;W[pf]
;B[oe]
;W[pe]
;B[od]C[reticent [5k\]: k3: but one point sente, so it's late yose at best, no?
Musketeer [3d\]: s18
]
;W[be]
;B[bd]
;W[ad]
;B[ce]
;W[ae]C[zeb: a point is a point
]
;B[af]
;W[ac]C[mw2a [1k\]: but 2 points is more
WuHoUnited [1k\]: a tautology is a tautology
tuerda [1d\]: winning pig is better than loosing
]
;B[ao]C[reticent [5k\]: yeah, but it's a ko threat as well
uglymove: F2
uglymove: first
]
;W[cr]C[andrewgr [3k\]: s18 makes black capture those stones eventually, right?
cugel [1k\]: you and your winning
reticent [5k\]: f2 f1 atari connect- one point gote?
xevad [3k\]: yes
]
;B[mk]
;W[ok]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: it's not gote
zeb: b doesn't need no steenkin' ko threats
DexMorgan [6d\]: not 1 point
]
;B[nj]C[xevad [3k\]: black has to capture s17 stones later
]
;W[oj]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: f2 f1 j5 j1 
ShenTe [4k\]: f2 f1 j5 g1 
SeiChan [4k\]: f2 f1 j5g1
]
;B[nl]C[ShenTe [4k\]: ^^
]
;W[fb]
;B[cf]C[SeiChan [4k\]: XD
Aur [1d\]: f2 j5 j1 seems big
uglymove: f2 f1 j5 g1
DexMorgan [6d\]: f2 is double sente
DexMorgan [6d\]: why they dont play it i dont know
cugel [1k\]: play it now
]
;W[fr]C[merik [11k\]: -.-
]
;B[jq]
;W[qs]C[tuerda [1d\]: f2 is indeed no good reason not to play
]
;B[io]
;W[is]C[smarthw: b missed f2
Longshi [-\]: probably because black didn't know whether he preferred k1 or f2 
]
;B[rp]C[Aur [1d\]: d7 now
handshake [1k\]: black win 14.5?
]
;W[cm]
;B[bm]C[uglymove: easy win for black
]
;W[dm]C[tuerda [1d\]: D7 C7 and b gains
smarthw: my estimate was 12.5, 150 moves ago
cugel [1k\]: b induced a piggy win
WuHoUnited [1k\]: don't trust the SE!
teach [3d\]: about 5
]
;B[bl]
;W[ie]C[Theo93 [5k\]: lol yeah, SE fails
Musketeer [3d\]: why not s18
cugel [1k\]: surprise
tuerda [1d\]: aga rules always breaks se
uglymove: B+9.5
]
;B[rc]C[SeiChan [4k\]: whats about s18?oO
WuHoUnited [1k\]: actually, SE pretty accurate
uglymove: s18 dont works
]
;W[ap]
;B[an]C[Musketeer [3d\]: make b capture
SeiChan [4k\]: i dont understand white couldnt suvive there?o:
cugel [1k\]: it's endgame
ShenTe [4k\]: w S18 --> b has to take out R17
Chrille [2k\]: semedori
FlameBlade [-\]: white cannot survive, but white can use to push for extra points
FlameBlade [-\]: by making black play on the inside
cugel [1k\]: learn the sacrifice tricks
tuerda [1d\]: if w s18 then b would lose a few points in semedori shente
]
;W[sp]
;B[so]
;W[sq]C[Aur [1d\]: p17 still a point
]
;B[jf]C[zeb: p6
cugel [1k\]: now yes
ShenTe [4k\]: yeah, I know it... -.-
]
;W[on]
;B[om]C[ShenTe [4k\]: read my commet ;)
]
;W[if]C[SeiChan [4k\]: how could black lose points just with s18?._.
ShenTe [4k\]: comment*
]
;B[el]
;W[fk]
;B[oc]C[SeiChan [4k\]: im to silly to understand it -.-
remsleep [7k\]: one poitners
]
;W[gg]C[mw2a [1k\]: too bad white
]
;B[dn]C[cugel [1k\]: 1 point
mw2a [1k\]: USA too strong
]
;W[cl]C[tuerda [1d\]: its dame time
remsleep [7k\]: ing rules?
]
;B[ej]C[ShenTe [4k\]: SeiChan... ws18 whatever s17 --> w has many libs... P19 doesn't. therefore b has to take out R17 while w is playing dame on N12
]
;W[dj]C[tuerda [1d\]: sorta like hamtaro time except without hamsters
xevad [3k\]: AGA rules
]
;B[np]
;W[oo]
;B[lg]C[remsleep [7k\]: ah. duh.
]
;W[lf]C[andrewgr [3k\]: if black has one eye and white has one eye, black needs to play moves to capture white.  all those moves to capture white are spent in the upper right corner, inside of black's territory
handshake [1k\]: black 4.5
]
;B[mh]
;W[nh]
;B[kj]
;W[eo]
;B[fl]C[cugel [1k\]: but Ing rulez too ... or not ^^
]
;W[dl]TW[aa][ca][da][ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][bb][hb][ib][jb][kb][lb][mb][ic][jc][hd][he][gf][eg][fg][hg][eh][cp][aq][cq][dq][ar][br][dr][kr][pr][rr][sr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][js][ks][ps][rs][ss]TB[pa][qa][ra][sa][pb][rb][sb][qc][sc][qd][rd][sd][re][se][rf][sf][ag][bg][rg][sg][ah][rh][sh][ai][ri][si][aj][bj][hj][ij][rj][sj][ak][hk][rk][sk][al][il][jl][ll][ml][ql][rl][sl][am][jm][lm][mm][pm][qm][rm][sm][jn][kn][ln][rn][sn][ko][lo][qo][jp]C[smarthw: thats it
FlameBlade [-\]: AGA rules
USGO1 [-\]: Players are now counting.
uglymove: b wins
uglymove: B+4.5
remsleep [7k\]: there was no need for AGA but that's another story....
merik [11k\]: 4.5
uglymove: B+4.5
ShenTe [4k\]: uglymove: nice name :D
handshake [1k\]: yay SE
smarthw: b+ center H10 stones
cugel [1k\]: it rules, but their rating system is lousy
uglymove: thx im to ugly
cugel [1k\]: bye move
tuerda [1d\]: uglymove is ugly name
ShenTe [4k\]: no, it's funny
xevad [3k\]: making an eye would not have made a difference in score
merik [11k\]: i feel ad for white
smarthw: the center clusterf*** killed white
ShenTe [4k\]: it gives you the right to play ugly moves
merik [11k\]: he had a strong game he just couldnt hold onto his lead
cugel [1k\]: so J8 the overplay
smarthw: w just missed k11
zc3k [1k\]: who won?
uglymove: b
ShenTe [4k\]: b
uglymove: 4,5
uglymove: 4.5
gireme [8k?\]: great match
merik [11k\]: B-4.5
cugel [1k\]: i'll try the commentary now
SeiChan [4k\]: i see XD
uglymove: +4.5
cugel [1k\]: see you
uglymove: see ya
merik [11k\]: cya next round cugel
USGO1 [-\]: B+ 11.5
wskb [-\]: good game,thanks!
uglymove: B+11.5? what
Kantarella [6k\]: lol
USGO1 [-\]: er
USGO1 [-\]: B+12.5
uglymove: what?? 12.5
dagec [7d\]: :(
uglymove: the SE shows b +4.5
tuerda [1d\]: the se is wrong
uglymove: i will never trust in my games
tuerda [1d\]: it is always wrong with aga rules
USGO1 [-\]: Thanks for watching everyone! Round 2 will take place on Monday.
zeb: but SE is NEVER wring!
USGO1 [-\]: at 3 pm EST
USGO1 [-\]: EDT*
FlameBlade [-\]: PDT?
FlameBlade [-\]: EST?
aussiemate [8k\]: W has 2 groups and B has one so W wins
merik [11k\]: bye :)
AsSeenOnTV [2d\]: breaking news : SE was wrong!
uglymove: all the games so are wrong counting ?
Kantarella [6k\]: se only scores with japanese rules
FlameBlade [-\]: pretty sure it's PDT
USGO1 [-\]: er
USGO1 [-\]: PDT >.<
aussiemate [8k\]: SE is infallible
uglymove: PDT=?
anathema [4k\]: EST - 3
uglymove: what is a PDT?
Kantarella [6k\]: SE is all we got
palladium [-\]: pacific daylight time
anathema [4k\]: pacific daylight
Anskiere [12k?\]: gmt-7
drau [5k\]: Move 150: drau [5k\]: b+5.5 my count hehe I am better than SE
SeiChan [4k\]: i dont understand the aga rules ôô
Ardeur [5k?\]: me neither :(
USGO1 [-\]: yea I'm not sure why B wins by 12, but that's what Calvin said ;P
Kantarella [6k\]: lol
Kantarella [6k\]: you just let Calvin decide?
SeiChan [4k\]: ôô
Ardeur [5k?\]: counting skillz
Kantarella [6k\]: :)
AsSeenOnTV [2d\]: perhaps 12.5 on the board
LeoMar [4k\]: i can't see any mistake in the live and dead stones marked by the SE
SeiChan [4k\]: fail?o:
AmonAmarth [4d\]: maybe calvin didnt say plus w's7.5 komi
USGO1 [-\]: the score was B: 53 to W: 34
AmonAmarth [4d\]: ohh .s
metaperl [8k\]: 7.5 komi, not 6.5 komi?
freefrom [7k\]: ya
freefrom [7k\]: aga
USGO1 [-\]: er
USGO1 [-\]: b+11.5
metaperl [8k\]: why is AGA more?
Kantarella [6k\]: everything is bigger and better over in the US
metaperl [8k\]: lol
AsSeenOnTV [2d\]: especially the debts
metaperl [8k\]: lol
USGO1 [-\]: Alrighty, bye everyone! Tune in next time!
USGO1 [-\]: NAIM round 1 is later today
USGO1 [-\]: Thanks for watching! :)
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